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snori |
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October 10, 2009 09:12:52am |
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Best (and worst) guests |
Any views on other musicians appearing on stage with the band ? I guess many would plump for Branford, and I enjoy hearing Carlos with them, but I'd like to check out some shows with other guests no matter how much of a part they played.
Additional request, same as above but with JGB.
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snori |
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October 10, 2009 10:14:10am |
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Re: Best (and worst) guests |
Wow, that is thorough. Plenty to look through and all with links. My gratitude to Earl and LIA. Still like to hear suggestions on the JGB front.
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high flow |
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October 10, 2009 12:26:07pm |
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Thanks for the facts scientist, but I think snori was asking for opinions.....:).
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elbow1126 |
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October 10, 2009 12:26:56pm |
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I think I provided both and it appeared that snori was appreciative. Whilst I love to think that my opinions are regarded as facts, I am sure that others do not think this to be the case.
btw, your comment about Joan Baez. Fact. My opinion about Ornette Coleman is that i wish they had picked different tunes for him to play. I think he could have been really interesting in more freeform jams instead of Stella Blue.
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high flow |
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October 10, 2009 12:39:47pm |
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Hey man - Just breaking your stones. Snori was absolutely appreciative, no doubt in my mind.
However, the best/worst subject-line made me think perhaps he/she was looking for more than just a list. So, I gave him/her a list sprinkled with opinions.
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elbow1126 |
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October 10, 2009 12:44:45pm |
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I know. Just returning the favor.
I figured that those threads had both facts and some opinions.
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high flow |
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October 10, 2009 12:52:24pm |
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Funny, I thought they played TOO with Ornette.
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user unknown |
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October 10, 2009 10:13:27am |
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Branford and Hornsby
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Styrofoam Cueball |
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October 10, 2009 10:38:15am |
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Janis and Pig's duet on 'Lovelight' cannot be beat.
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stratocaster |
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October 11, 2009 08:48:22am |
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Garcia rocked that September run...but do check out the next JGB show, 09-16-1989, also with Clarence Clemons, one of the best JGB shows out there...
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Diamondhead |
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October 10, 2009 11:21:12am |
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I just happened to listen to the 03-25-72 concert where they backed Bo Diddley. Un-fucking-real - the sound was a revelation to me, or maybe just a reawakened memory. They were a boogie band and a rhythm machine then and backed him up great. And he was the godfather of rocknroll. I made myself listen to all of it, even the boring parts, and I could hear so many upbeat riffs that ended up in space jams in later years. I guess Bobby was listening real good. I sorta wished they'd kept this part of them after 76. It's on a DP. Or, listen to a few songs on an mp3 from somewhere.
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high flow |
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October 10, 2009 12:20:03pm |
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Etta James, Tower of Power, Ornette Coleman and those folks clapping along with Ollin Arageed on Egypt '78. Huey Lewis, Hamza al Din and Gary Duncan. Ken Kesey. Most of these were good.
Joan Baez was bad.
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johnnyonthespot |
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October 10, 2009 02:31:50pm |
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to me the whole guest thing is a nice gesture and all but being that they never rehearsed with these people they ended up having to make it something that lends itself to something simple and sloppy. That's just my opinion. I mean how much more generic does it get than something like that Stephen Stills thing, or can anyone here Crosby's contributions on the shows that he supposedly played with them? Funny but it seems the studio collaborations Jerry did seem to work much better than the live experience of the guest jam thing.
I go hands down with Branford because it was a true musical collaboration/contribution like real jazz as opposed to NFA/Johnn B Goode etc ( although I dig Cippollina playing NFA with them ).
I put Hornsby in the same category but the times I saw him play with them he was in the band in all respects not a guest. Then there are the guest drum thing - allways cool to me to have even MORE stuff going on back there.
One cool one I saw that NEVER gets mention is the 2-27-90 Mardi Gras show where Beauseleil ( sp? ) opened. Michael Doucett playing with them on Iko sounds pretty cool, better than the Nevilles I think.
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William Tell |
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October 11, 2009 03:49:17am |
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Yeah, I was always expecting big things but after the first few, I then felt they were always much better in theory than in practice...too "busy" with too much "simple" straight up exchange of leads, etc., etc., without anything really special happening in my view...sounds overly harsh, but I never pull out an early era "guest show" to play for anyone, except JJ...
EDIT: ij-it!
This post was modified by William Tell on 2009-10-11 10:49:17
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Phlesh Wound |
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October 10, 2009 04:59:12pm |
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Worst has to be Wayne Ceballos 3/8/70. Painfully bad.
They released a JGB show where Bruce Hornsby sits in, 1991-11-09, as Pure Jerry #7.
This post was modified by Phlesh Wound on 2009-10-10 23:59:12
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snori |
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October 11, 2009 03:15:20am |
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I have that CD, and Hornsby fits in well, soloing and sitting back. So I guess he would be my preferred guest with JGB.
Thanks to everyone who made suggestions - they will take some time to work through. Can anyone supply a date for Huey Lewis guesting ?
I enjoyed the Etta James (and Tower of Power horns ?) more than I thought I would. But so far I'm still leaning towards Carlos and Branford.
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skuzzlebutt |
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October 10, 2009 09:21:45pm |
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There are a few exceptions (Branford), but for the most part I think the shows which feature guests are unremarkable.
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